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Posted Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:01 PM
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benroskams (6/17/2010)
I agree that the photo of the front doesn't look as though it is the same violin (also the button on the back has at some stage been replaced with an ebony one)

However when I met Znaider recently a friend took a picture with the violin and the back clearly matches both the pictures of 551 and the one here (one really has to scrutinise the flames on the back, and they do match!)

It is strange that it took a third photo to see that they were the same violin as a direct comparison of the two photos available here don't at first glance seem to match. (also the early photo of 551 would have some degree of distortion from the lense- which may account for the different looking front!)

It is also worth noting that Znaider's violin still has the fake 1737 label with the miss spelled Cremonae!

If the violin bears a label dated 1737, then this one may well have been the ex- Miles Frank Yount. But, if that is the case, the top does not appear to be the same; though this may be due to differences in lighting and the angles at which the images were taken. Since it has now been proven (in Italy through published scholarly research) that Bartolomeo Giuseppe Guarneri was not Guarneri del Gesu the labels reading Cremonae are legitimate.

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era posted:
"Since it has now been proven (in Italy through published scholarly research) that Bartolomeo Giuseppe Guarneri was not Guarneri del Gesu the labels reading Cremonae are legitimate."

Hi era,

The above statement is totally false because unfortunately the authors of this book relied heavily on the published articles and books of the Cremonese journalist Elia Santoro. Although Santoro did make some positive contributions to understanding the violinmakers and their times in Cremona, he made a huge error when he declared that Bartolomeo Giuseppe Guarneri 'del Gesù' was an impostor conveniently invented by the Hills.
The Cremonæ labels, in reference to Bartolomeo Giuseppe Guarneri 'del Gesù', the Hills declared as reproductions made by Vuillaume for his copies (see the page of illustrated labels in the Hill Guarneri book of 1931). Even the style of typeface used by Vuillaume did not exist in Cremona at the time of 'del Gesù'. I would add that many other mediocre copies of the 'del Gesù' label are out there in circulation. The first instances we see of the true 'del Gesù' label is 1730-1731 and he remained faithful to this one style of label from that point to the end of his life; and always spelt Cremonę.
It is unfortunate that the errors of past research must continually be repeated after they were corrected so many years ago...

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Bruce, thanks for setting the record straight . . . again.

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Bruce, thanks for setting the record straight . . . again.

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I'm sure it's been said before but it was "again" necessary to repeat it.

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Yes, I agree.

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