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i have 2 viola
1 gio & francesco fratelli de grancini in contrada larga di milano 1700
2 Joannes Baptista Guadagnini fecit Parmaes ferviens CSR 1741
where i can sell this 2 instrument?
see photo in attachments
p.s. sorry for my bad english and corect me if i have write something rong
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Considering that your instruments are not originals, rather factory ones, and their condition pretty bad, I would say that your best option to sell them is eBay.
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.......and i'm the one who's not diplomatic.........
and yes, unfortunately English isn't spelled as Romanian.....
P.S.: I'd say ebay too, but with the concurrence down there and the bad state of the instruments, there's not much hope to get any offer ...as playble instruments i mean, maybe as something else ( general wood, fireplace accessories, curious gadgets, etc.etc.)
all the best
the bat
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Wasn’t I diplomatic?  Oh… Sorry merlin, I didn’t want to create a wrong expectative, that’s why I told you straight what I think is the truth.
As already “the bat” pointed you, it’s very difficult to sell an instrument in bad conditions. If the instruments are good, then you know that if you invest some money in the restoration, somehow you will get it back. If the instruments are not good, it makes no sense to spend time and money… you would have to sell them as they are, consequently, do not expect to get much from them.
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k let see i have 2 q :
1 do you want to tell me the 2 violin are fake?
2 what about the label "gio & francesco fratelli de grancini in contrada larga di milano 1700" and "Joannes Baptista Guadagnini fecit Parmaes ferviens CSR 1741"
10x anticipate
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1 – Straight answer: Yes.
But, I’m not sure if you can call it „fake“. I would say they are „copies”; there are millions of them. Germany and Bohemia were famous of making „copies” of old Italian violins, sometimes taking models of famous ones as Stradivari, Guarneri, Amati, Guadagnini… etc, or even inventing fictitious names. Some of these „copies” are good, made it by famous makers in a way of practicing and later developing their own style, some others are not good and just an element of mass production.
2 – Labels are very easy to fake (and this time it’s a real „fake”). Normally they are cut from book’s facsimiles, nobody take the label as real, unless the instrument is really good. 
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